No freedom, No OPPO for me :(

"Punk_Girl_98" (isabellamunos) 11/19/2015 at 11:00 • Filed to: None

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I guess i’m too much of a handful for the mods. I don’t want to be a constant bother.

Even with permission, my very successful car related post was edited. I know the intentions were right-ish, but everyone seems to get away with it.

Not mad at the mods, but being singled out and not feeling free was the last thing I expected form the OPPO 5-0.

And I was so excited for the new red do and all the red cars. Such a bummer

You are all so cool! I’ll hang around Jalopnik for sure so if ya see me, stop by and say hello :P

I will not be responding to any reply. Lol typical girl :P

See you all soon hopefully

SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman > Punk_Girl_98 11/19/2015 at 11:07

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You’re a minor. Wait until you’re not and we’ll give less of a bother.

Sovereign, Purveyor of Coupes > Punk_Girl_98 11/19/2015 at 11:08

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To be fair as an adult it is a little uncomfortable explaining why you’re on a site with underaged people’s selfies (male or female), especially at somewhere like a place of employment.

Leadbull > Punk_Girl_98 11/19/2015 at 11:09

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K

Opposite Locksmith > Punk_Girl_98 11/19/2015 at 11:12

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Maybe use a car photo and no one will notice, there are minors on oppo, they just aren't such minor about it

Opposite Locksmith > Opposite Locksmith 11/19/2015 at 11:12

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A minor

Sam > SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman 11/19/2015 at 11:15

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You better go through and take down all the high school car posts with people in them then, because they’re minors too.

Jcarr > Opposite Locksmith 11/19/2015 at 11:15

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SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman > Sam 11/19/2015 at 11:16

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I’m on it like a bee on wet tiles

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Opposite Locksmith 11/19/2015 at 11:18

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Also a minor

Jcarr > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 11/19/2015 at 11:19

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A miner:

Rico > Punk_Girl_98 11/19/2015 at 11:20

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The internet is full of strangers essentially so the mods are looking out for your best interest even if it doesn’t seem that way. Obviously this site is like 99% guys some your age many who are not, in a way it is protecting you. Think about your facebook (if you have one) you likely have it so that it is private and only people you accept can see your profile here those settings don’t exist. Don’t give up on Oppo we just don’t want to have to virtually (or physcially) kick someone’s ass for being a creeper.

Sort of like that post you made about the school car wash you and your friends did and the creepers who were catcalling a bunch of minors- that is basically the internet summed up.

jariten1781 > Punk_Girl_98 11/19/2015 at 11:21

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Drama time...been a while.

Nibby > Punk_Girl_98 11/19/2015 at 11:24

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I’ve been here for... well over 5.5 years.

Never have I posted a picture of myself... and maybe two or three people here actually know my real name.

McMike > Jcarr 11/19/2015 at 11:24

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Oddly enough, the person in that photo is only 17 years old.

SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman > Nibby 11/19/2015 at 11:26

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Shit, I don’t even know your real name. But you know mine :)

Nibby > SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman 11/19/2015 at 11:27

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Opposite Locksmith > Nibby 11/19/2015 at 11:28

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THIS. Probably no one knows my age

Jcarr > McMike 11/19/2015 at 11:29

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#CoalLyfe

Nibby > Opposite Locksmith 11/19/2015 at 11:29

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You’re somewhere between 5-120. I win.

dogisbadob > Sam 11/19/2015 at 11:30

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They *were* minors, but they aren’t now. Just showing pictures of the cars they had at the time. An adult posting pictures of themselves in the past is more acceptable.

TheHondaBro > SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman 11/19/2015 at 11:32

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Is it just me, or is there a sudden influx of identity protection here on Oppo? Not criticizing, just saying I haven’t noticed it before.

Sam > TheHondaBro 11/19/2015 at 11:34

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I’ve noticed it too, posts with pictures of members seem to get huge freakouts from the mods.

pauljones > Rico 11/19/2015 at 11:34

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THIS. Precisely this.

Sam > dogisbadob 11/19/2015 at 11:35

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To be honest, my issue is less with that and more with the mods enforcing rules that aren’t actually in the rulebook.

TheHondaBro > Nibby 11/19/2015 at 11:35

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But as a consenting adult, you have the freedom to do so.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > TheHondaBro 11/19/2015 at 11:36

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they’re ashamed of our beauty

TheHondaBro > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 11/19/2015 at 11:38

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fur real doe.

dogisbadob > Jcarr 11/19/2015 at 11:38

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rollin’ (in the) coal

Opposite Locksmith > Nibby 11/19/2015 at 11:38

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Haha closer to the latter sadly

dogisbadob > Opposite Locksmith 11/19/2015 at 11:39

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CalzoneGolem > SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman 11/19/2015 at 11:39

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I ... I have no idea what this means.

Party-vi > Opposite Locksmith 11/19/2015 at 11:40

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Balls. As-in you are old as balls.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > jariten1781 11/19/2015 at 11:45

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Hello drama my old friend

Opposite Locksmith > dogisbadob 11/19/2015 at 11:45

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Hahahaha hilarious. Minoers

dogisbadob > Punk_Girl_98 11/19/2015 at 11:46

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The thread is still there. Also, the offending pic still appears in ome of the replies because it had an annotation.

McMike > Jcarr 11/19/2015 at 11:47

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That was his 11th grade yearbook photo.

CounterTorqueSteer > Punk_Girl_98 11/19/2015 at 11:47

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k’bye

dogisbadob > Opposite Locksmith 11/19/2015 at 11:48

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Yeah, it’s that Old English spelling :p

Jcarr > McMike 11/19/2015 at 11:49

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McMike strikes again.

Golden Blackened

jariten1781 > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 11/19/2015 at 11:49

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Pretty much the opposite of the sound of silence.

Every time one of these “I’m leaving because XXXX” (of which I have varying degrees of sympathy) comes up I just think of the Crue:

Don’t go away mad, just go away.

Party-vi > Sam 11/19/2015 at 11:50

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So you like 16yo girls posting selfies on Oppo?

Nibby > TheHondaBro 11/19/2015 at 11:50

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She got permission from her parents.

zeontestpilot > Punk_Girl_98 11/19/2015 at 11:54

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Yoh don’t have to reply, but you will probably read this. On the internet anonymity can be helpful. If you drop the 98 from your name and change your pic, it can be helpful. People will think of you just as a girl, not as a minor. Or just reinvent yourself with a different username.

pauljones > Punk_Girl_98 11/19/2015 at 11:59

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Having not been around a whole lot for the past several days, I’m not sure what exactly happened. I’ll look into it momentarily. But there are a couple of things I can tell you, and as it happens, I think I have told you in the past. No one is babysitting you per se, but there are concerns about a minor posting pictures and information of themselves on a forum as open and easy to access as Oppositelock.

I’ve known some of the commenters around here for years, and have known them to be good commenters. But when push comes to shove, I would absolutely not simply trust them at face value for anything beyond sharing car stuff. And that’s coming me from me, a grown man. As a minor, it’s potentially dangerous. Someone that very easily seems nice could just as easily be a real creep.

Allow me to borrow a Cyanide and Happiness comic to illustrate the concept I’m getting at here:

We don’t want that happening. We don’t want someone using this place as a means to creep on you. If something like that happens, it’s obviously bad news for you. But it’s also bad news for us. We don’t want to be that part of the internet. I know that as a young woman, you’ve already experienced a lot of creepy behavior from guys of almost every age. We know that you’ve seen your fair share of skeeviness, even at your age, and we know that you can generally look after yourself from the standpoint of what you’ve seen and experienced thus far. But we don’t want you to experience more of that here, and that’s why someone has taken down pictures.

The only thing about you that should matter to anyone else here or be the business of anyone else here is that you have an interest in cars and automotive culture. Everything else does not matter. Age, gender, looks, all of it - it’s all irrelevant to your interactions here, and the best way to avoid skeevy behavior from the creeps that make up a huge part of the internet is to keep all of that irrelevant.

I’m sorry that we live in a world where there are pervs and creeps out there. I’m sorry that this is something that women regardless of age have to think about and be aware of not only in real life, but on the internet as well. It’s not right and it’s not fair.

But the simple truth is that we do live in a world that requires all of that, and as long as that’s the case, you need to be proactive about protecting yourself on the internet, and we as moderators need to be proactive about making sure that this is as hospitable and safe of a place to interact as we can make it.

Is removing a picture the best way to do so? Maybe, maybe not. But it’s the only way we know how. Like RicoRich said elsewhere in the replies, this isn’t Facebook. You don’t get to choose whom you do and do not share your photos with. This is an open, easy-to-access comment system that anyone who wants to see can see.

If all of this upsets you, congratulations. You’re exactly right, and I understand why this upsets you. You’re absolutely justified in being upset. It’s not fair that you should feel like you’re being picked on because of the fact that this place we know as the internet is full of creeps, pervs, and skeevs. It just isn’t. But you can’t change the internet, and neither can we. The best we can do is try whatever we can to make sure that that doesn’t happen to you here, and that’s what we do.

Take it that as you will, but I do hope that you understand that it isn’t anything personal against you. We don’t dislike you. We aren’t trying to pick on you. We share your interests in cars and automotive culture, and we encourage that interest. But we want to make sure that when others interact with you here, they are interacting with you on the bases of your interest in cars, rather than their interest in any other aspect about you.

pauljones > TheHondaBro 11/19/2015 at 12:07

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As a mod, I can’t say that I’ve seen that much. This has been the first instance that we’ve encountered it, and there’s a reason that we’ve done the things that we have. As a rule, we don’t care how much you all choose to share with each other, provided that you’re all adults and it’s all by choice.

In this case, however, it’s a little different. There are two major subsets in the population that are particularly haunted by the predatory behavior of others: underage children and women. She falls into both categories, and that scares the deuces out of us. Certain aspects of Oppositelock commenter behavior towards both children and women are questionable enough as is; we DO NOT want to be a place where predatory behavior towards underage minors happens.

pauljones > Nibby 11/19/2015 at 12:09

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If you believe everything you read on the internet, then goddamn do I have the deal of a lifetime for you on a bridge in New York City!

pauljones > Sovereign, Purveyor of Coupes 11/19/2015 at 12:09

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This, too.

TheHondaBro > pauljones 11/19/2015 at 12:10

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I agree with and embrace your strategy here. Keep Oppo awesome.

Hermann > CalzoneGolem 11/19/2015 at 12:10

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I think it means that surface tension makes the bee get stuck, only able to walk while not being able to fly off... maybe?

BRB, going to catch a bee.

pauljones > jariten1781 11/19/2015 at 12:10

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This.

Sam > Party-vi 11/19/2015 at 12:13

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I couldn’t care less, to be frank. It’s no different than when my 16yo friends of mine on Facebook post selfies. There is no rule against it in the handbook either. You also have to remember that I'm not much older than 16 myself.

Party-vi > Sam 11/19/2015 at 12:15

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Facebook has privacy settings. Oppositelock does not. Also please note we as Mods take steps and precautions to protect users here as we see fit, and we are transparent in our attempts to do so. The last thing we need is a disturbed individual lurking on Oppo and gathering personal information from under-aged Opponauts in an attempt to meet with them in person, whether it’s known to the Opponaut in question or not.

Nibby > pauljones 11/19/2015 at 12:20

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omg yes

Can we meet at Williamsburgh Bridge? Finally I can buy a shiny new S550 :)

Brickman > Punk_Girl_98 11/19/2015 at 12:28

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I’ve always learned to not post pics of yourself, house, or any thing that can determine your location on the internet or most likely an international blog site.

I dont have a problem with it, but on a fourm/blog views by people all over the world you might be porn for ISIS or some scumbag....ewwww

No one knows im a cat :D

CB > Punk_Girl_98 11/19/2015 at 12:30

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As someone who has seen an (at the time) 25 year old creeping on a 13 year old girl (and all other girls on the forum, pretty much), I understand where the mods are coming from. Is it paternalistic and restricting your freedom? Yes. Is it the right call? Probably.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Punk_Girl_98 11/19/2015 at 12:30

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You’ve been a great addition to the group. I don’t feel you should leave just think a bit harder about what you share.

I’m an adult with a family and even when I post a pic of my car in the driveway I blur my address. I’ve done an overhead satellite view of my house when talking about riding lawn mowers...i blurred all the street names.

Sometimes the world we live in sucks. It sucks I have to take those steps....I also don’t want my Montego stolen, they’re hard to find.

It’s always obnoxious hearing adults say “It’s for your own good” or “It’s for your protection”.

You’ll look back in about 5-10 years and go..... “ok...they were right”.

I’m sure people will back me in saying that I’m one of the defenders of keeping OPPO as diverse and welcoming as possible, so trust that no one wants you to leave, they just want to keep you safe. (Also I’m not a mod I don’t make the calls that were involved)

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > Nibby 11/19/2015 at 12:34

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I know part of your real name... Provided you actually used your real name, that is :P

BTW, laptop is working perfectly! A bit sluggish sometimes, but Its probably Windows rather than the laptop

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > pauljones 11/19/2015 at 12:37

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I have a teenage daughter and I totally agree with your decision. As a parent I would let my child read OPPO and make comments (with my checking her account ocasionally) but certainly not post photos of herself.

Nibby > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 11/19/2015 at 12:44

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Good to hear! It’s a fantastic machine, glad you’re enjoying it.

crowmolly > Party-vi 11/19/2015 at 12:48

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Agreed. There is absolutely a difference.

On Facebook you have some control over your content and can protect yourself. On Kinja once the 15 minute window is done it’s posted forever, unless a mod or staff kills the thread or it’s a post you started. If you piss off some burner on the FP you may earn yourself some harassment with a side of stalker after they go through all the info you shared.

dogisbadob > Party-vi 11/19/2015 at 12:50

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Paul Walker would be proud

dogisbadob > pauljones 11/19/2015 at 12:53

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especially on a site that’s like 99% male.

And also, there’s a risk of being sued.

BKosher84 > Nibby 11/19/2015 at 13:01

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What are you talking about we all know you’re real name. It’s Nibby. If it’s not you are lying. Lol.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Brickman 11/19/2015 at 13:02

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God dammit, I’m allergic to cats, I don’t think we can talk anymore Brick man cat

BKosher84 > Punk_Girl_98 11/19/2015 at 13:08

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They didn’t edit the post to be an “overbearing adult” they edited it for your saftey. As a father of a five month old I’m already worried about how my son, in the future will treat the internet and how much he’ll be sharing.

The last thing the mods, and members as a whole, want to happen is to hear that someone is cyber stalking you or trying to manipulate you in any way because they are a creeper. The internet is a scary damn place.

Also. They probably also edited it because if anything WERE to happen to you, Denton would have this sub-blog shut down faster than you can say Oppo.

Brickman > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/19/2015 at 13:17

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Awww :(

Rico > TheHondaBro 11/19/2015 at 13:22

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If we are to assume our role as the Oppo army our identities can’t be known!

CounterTorqueSteer > Punk_Girl_98 11/19/2015 at 13:31

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Rico > Party-vi 11/19/2015 at 13:36

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Seriously, there is no way to gauge the age of people commenting on her posts or writing to her either. A guy could be 45 years old in his Mom’s basement claiming to be a 16 year old just like she is. Once I concluded that she wasn’t a bot I even made sure to keep an eye on the comments on her posts to see if a creeper would come out so I could flag it for the mods.

Without trying to be rude, stereotype or single people out dudes on the internet (as well as real life, let’s face it) are thirsty. And a situation like this is letting a girl into an All Boy’s Clubhouse, some people just can’t compose themselves so the mods (you guys) have to find ways to avoid the situation all together.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Brickman 11/19/2015 at 13:37

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Maybe it’s “mental” I’ve never had a near death experience while talking to you on here.

We’ll see how it goes.

Also, cats are stupid. Dogs rule.

SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman > Sam 11/19/2015 at 13:37

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not much older than 16?

Well, that certainly explains your stance not seeing the whole picture. Party-vi’s post here explains why we took action.

CounterTorqueSteer > Punk_Girl_98 11/19/2015 at 13:41

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Let me direct your attention to this comment thread from Halloween. You, as a minor, posted a suggestive photo of yourself in a revealing costume. As a result, you received a comment on your attractiveness. Was his comment out of line? Maybe, maybe not. The point is, none of this behavior (yours included) is what Oppo is about. If you plan to leave, then goodbye, but please don’t think it’d because people are picking on you.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > pauljones 11/19/2015 at 14:16

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I only saw the headline and the photo; didn’t read the thread, but I respect you and therefore the decision. Did you run it by $kay, Stef, yamahog, etc? I’m guessing they would have had good input.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Party-vi 11/19/2015 at 14:19

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Especially considering how spooky good consumer-grade facial recognition software has gotten these days...

zeontestpilot > pauljones 11/19/2015 at 15:56

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I’m curious, would it have been better if she wasn’t so open about her age? I think it would of been ok if she didn’t make any mention of her age, like dropping off the 98 part of her name, and change her pic.

zeontestpilot > Brickman 11/19/2015 at 16:01

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I think for me, I post stuff because I have nothing of worthwhile value. Most of what I have is broken, lol.

Dusty Ventures > zeontestpilot 11/19/2015 at 19:07

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We have no problem with her being here, our main issue has been with concerns over her habit of posting selfies. Less emphasis from her about being a 16 year old girl would be good for safety though.